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Living FREEDOM! / Re: Harmonious thriving communities
« on: June 24, 2016, 06:00:53 PM »
I've been wondering the same thing for years. I'm assuming when the time is right, one of these will drop into my lap.
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Going to disagree Adam...I wish this post had been answered. Very spot on mister. Voting for anyone who does not follow the NAP is completely in opposition of my moral code and beliefs. And since none of them do....
Your analogy would be more logical IMO if you considered the act of voting as being apart of taking in part of a robbery. Because without people to vote, elections would be completely meaningless and pointless. Voting is like being the get away driver...
There are many schools of thought when it comes to anarchism / voluntaryism / libertarianism that it's inevitable disagreements take place. I personally see the act of taking part in the state (be it voting or running for office) as a hypocritical act...especially when you denounce statism.
The theory of "plants" inside the voluntaryist community COULD be likely, but again, so many different schools of thought inside this community leaves me to believe it's just difference of opinions.
But doesn't that add to the "demand" for more taxes? Or in other words, we are demanding the gunmen steal more money to pay for not just their bombs to send into hospitals around the world, but also to pay us for whatever we got them to agree to pay.Let's pretend that your taking a grant directly translated into a tax increase. It will eventually get to the point where people will have had enough. Some of us have found ways that no matter how many grants are given, it is zero impact on our lives. Besides, they're going to do whatever they're going to do anyway. That is to say, they will take as much as they need to without regard to anyone's well being. I have a feeling income taxes are more of a suppressant of the everyday man than a a financial need. They get all of their money from importing smack from Afghanistan, selling water to aliens, whatever. I understand your moral dilemma, but you may actually be helping to crash the system, thus liberating the people trapped within it right now.
Is it moral for me to rob my neighbors houses so I can pay to build a playground in the neighborhood? Nope. What if I hired some thugs to rob the neighborhood and they only get a cut of the action so I could still build the playground? Still immoral. Why is doing it through the government any different?
As for morality being tied to survival: I fundamentally disagree. We are meant to Thrive, not merely survive. Survival implies a struggle to exist or continuing to exist. But through a life of love, or as Adam put in in his book, happiness, we can then live freely. Freely living isn't simply surviving, it's thriving.
As I just said, I don't categorize everything into one of two polarized opposites. There are many shades of grey in the world and nothing is purely good or evil.
How does it work?You start a group... Can be family, like minded people, your county, whatever. You set your radius, in other words the max distance you'd travel to help. Then you send out alerts if something goes sideways. The app gives you specific scenarios (pulled over by police, cop blocking, broken down being BULLIED for fucks sake), the ability to live stream video (while your phone pretends it's off). I know a bit more about Cell 411 as I've had it longer and the PeaceKeeper app was a bit buggy, which is I'm assuming why it's down for retooling. I have yet to really use it (Cell 411), and the one time I "tested" it by sending out a general alert about the DOT being in a church parking lot in my home town to generate revenue I got massive feedback about people coming to help me. I fucking panicked because I said right in the alert that it was an FYI and a test more than anything else, but I started getting all these responses. "so and so is 25 miles away and on their way to help!" and the like. Just grab it and check it out for yourself. You can always uninstall it if you don't like it.
Great! Can I put you both down as County Coordinators then? What contact information of yours can you share here?Sure. askandrewanything@gmail.com
http://peacekeeper.org/vision/Love it conceptually. Not a large enough community yet to be practical. Another great one is Cell 411. Peacekeeps did however send me a nice free t shirt lol.
Peacekeeper will allow for self-organization of community-wide self defense and emergency response.
Can individuals protect themselves and their community? Certainly!
Can the idea catch on and become a mass movement? And if so, how soon?
I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.