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Strategy/Organization/Ideas / Re: Pull those pants on. Its time to get active.

« on: June 29, 2016, 03:00:53 AM »

Can I be active without pants?

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Current Events / Re: Gun Control, and the 2nd Amendment

« on: June 15, 2016, 04:04:17 PM »

you will just lay down your arms and surrender?  That's not the answer our founding fathers fought and risked their lives to give us the right to stand up to our government when the time comes. I will die fighting and I will not die on my knees.  The 2nd amendment was written to american citizens can defend themselves against enemies foreign and domestic. Civilians and government.  Frankly conceal carry permits are unconstitutional.  It restricts people from carrying weapons whenever we want.

I agree with all of this. But the pro gun control people do not care about the Constitution. They haven't read the commentary from James Madison, or St. George Tucker, or Joseph Story, etc. They believe it refers to some collective militia right, or that we should repeal it, or that we should just disregard it altogether (conveniently overlooking the precedent that sets for the other 9 amendments). To argue for the merits of gun ownership, we need to look beyond the 2nd amendment. Because in the context of the State, we have already lost the legal argument via the judicial branch. So let's argue outside their framework. Let's promote self-ownership and a fundamental right to self-defense--the immorality of gun control follows.

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Current Events / Re: Gun Control, and the 2nd Amendment

« on: June 14, 2016, 09:33:40 PM »

Its our right to keep and bear arms.  No matter what. Our founding fathers gave us that right. To protect ourselves, especially from the government and whoever tries to infringe on our constitutional rights..  It doesn't matter what kind of weapon it is. Anybody can make a wmd from shit you buy at different stores.

This is the kind of answer I was scared of. I think that is framing the discussion in a way that we will lose. Hell, even I'm not convinced you could make an argument where I'd agree the 2nd amendment could be interpreted as granting individual citizens the right to bear WMD. now, being logically consistent, I wouldn't support the use of force to prevent someone from making one on their own property, but I sure as hell wouldn't live next to them and I'm not sure how a free society would regulate such things.

Our rights do not come from the first ten amendments, or the founding fathers, they are de facto inherent in all human beings. This isn't Ron Paul's campaign in '08 or '12. Kokesh is a totally new dynamic with a very different platform. Let's move on from the Constitutional arguments and look towards poking holes in statism's logic/sense of morality.

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Current Events / Re: Gun Control, and the 2nd Amendment

« on: June 14, 2016, 07:41:13 PM »

It's going to be a critical issue come 2020. If Hillary wins this year, I hope she is unable to appoint ultra liberal SC justices with a "living document"  interpretation re: the 2nd amendment. Any one else and I'm confident we'll be able to last the full first term without any further judicial reinterpretation.

That being said...

Lots of people are in favor of gun control. Lots of people are in favor of restricting guns under certain circumstances. Not many people are discussing that the 2nd amendment says ARMS (not limited to guns,) and SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED; meaning any and all laws restricting or banning anything that can be considered a weapon is Unconstitutional.

Obviously, it hasn't been interpreted by the courts this way. I have a fair amount of Constitutional knowledge and I'm mostly in your corner, but I much prefer arguing for the merits of gun ownership on the basis of a right to self-defense. It aligns perfectly with the NAP and there's plenty of good data to support it as a matter of pragmatism.

Devil's advocate, because if you are going to argue that the Constitution grants the right of the people to possess ANYTHING that could be classified as a weapon, and that is not to be infringed by the State in any way, this is what you will hear from anti-gun statists...

You cool with individual citizens having access to WMD?

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Strategy/Organization/Ideas / Re: Social Media Response Team

« on: June 14, 2016, 05:05:04 PM »

This sort of coordinated online strategy is really important nowadays and will only become more relevant as we approach 2020. sure, we can gather a loose group of volunteers to target the various social media outlets, but if the goal is synergy then a top-down approach with a little more structure might be necessary. Especially being that voluntaryism/freedom/NAP is a scary new concept for statists, and the message is going to be straw-manned ad nauseam.

We ought to have a master reference list on the campaign's official stance on the issues and the statist arguments & talking points, and provide guidelines and data helping to respond effectively and accurately. Dedicated teams for each platform... crafting an effective rebuttal in 140 characters on Twitter is different than Tumblr or Reddit.

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Adam's YouTube Channel / Re: Kokesh endorses McAfee

« on: May 29, 2016, 10:21:23 PM »

I consider voting an immoral act as you're basically using the government as a middle-man to impose your will on others. If I can't walk to my neighbor's house, ring the doorbell and ask for half of what's in his wallet while pointing a gun to his head...why is it appropriate for me to vote for a proposition in which imposes a tax (theft) on others and use the government to impose what I feel is right and moral on others by voting?

I agree. I have never registered to vote and never will. Participation implicates consent unless unavoidable.

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Current Events / Re: Meanwhile, while everyone is arguing about bathrooms...

« on: May 25, 2016, 03:44:58 PM »

I missed the part where encryption could sometimes become the cause for search. Could you point it out, please?

What I did see was where anonymization/VPN/Tor would be a trigger for application of this procedural amendment.

If VPN use could trigger the use, then I'll don't see much use for paying PIA any more past December

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New York / Re: New York State Organization

« on: May 14, 2016, 08:56:01 PM »

Great! Can I put you both down as County Coordinators then? What contact information of yours can you share here?

Just shot you a PM.

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Activism projects/Strategy/Winning Converts / Re: FREEDOM! for North Korea

« on: May 06, 2016, 04:22:50 PM »

This could potentially be huge in respect to media coverage.

Back when I was a senior in high school, a group called LiNK came and gave a presentation outlining how atrocious the situation is in NK and their efforts in transporting refugees across the border. I'm not sure how that organization as a whole would feel about associating with Freedom!, but at the very least, we could reach out to some of their interns in South Korea.

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New York / Re: New York State Organization

« on: May 06, 2016, 03:31:59 PM »

I'm in Albany County, less than a ten minute drive from the Empire State Plaza/state capital. Willing to help in any way you need. I'm also close enough to help out in Schenectady County and Rensselaer County, and have some connections in Warren County. Grew up in Westchester County but don't have much interest in organizing there.