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Ted Cruz is no libertarian
MattATatTat:
Going to disagree Adam...
Your analogy would be more logical IMO if you considered the act of voting as being apart of taking in part of a robbery. Because without people to vote, elections would be completely meaningless and pointless. Voting is like being the get away driver...
There are many schools of thought when it comes to anarchism / voluntaryism / libertarianism that it's inevitable disagreements take place. I personally see the act of taking part in the state (be it voting or running for office) as a hypocritical act...especially when you denounce statism.
The theory of "plants" inside the voluntaryist community COULD be likely, but again, so many different schools of thought inside this community leaves me to believe it's just difference of opinions.
Grant Cole:
Yeah, Ted Cruz used to be pretty good in Congress until he started pandering to right-wing Christian conservatives.
AndrewG:
--- Quote from: MattATatTat on June 04, 2016, 05:29:58 PM ---Going to disagree Adam...
Your analogy would be more logical IMO if you considered the act of voting as being apart of taking in part of a robbery. Because without people to vote, elections would be completely meaningless and pointless. Voting is like being the get away driver...
There are many schools of thought when it comes to anarchism / voluntaryism / libertarianism that it's inevitable disagreements take place. I personally see the act of taking part in the state (be it voting or running for office) as a hypocritical act...especially when you denounce statism.
The theory of "plants" inside the voluntaryist community COULD be likely, but again, so many different schools of thought inside this community leaves me to believe it's just difference of opinions.
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I wish this post had been answered. Very spot on mister. Voting for anyone who does not follow the NAP is completely in opposition of my moral code and beliefs. And since none of them do....
Magnaniman:
The belief that, by refusing to vote, the government will stop doing anything that it's doing is simply not true.
In another thread, I saw you advocate for accepting government money as it will force their hand and bring the system closer to collapse. Why not apply that to voting? Voting for candidates that will work against the military-industrial complex and reduce the scope of the police state will also work to force their hand by forcing them into situations where they have to increasingly use voter suppression and other tactics that delegitimize their perceived basis of authority.
Imagine the righteousness and hilarity of electing an anarchist to Congress. Endless "Taxation is Theft" filibusters every time they try to do anything except repeal laws. The obstructionism that one person in these positions of authority can engage in is mind-boggling. If you want to tear down the system, voting is one possible way you can do it.
MattATatTat:
You still fail to understand that many see voting as a violation of the Non-Aggression Principle. You (as a voter) are using your vote to impose your will upon others using government as the enforcer...It's that simple. And the notion that an "anarchist" would ever occupy a representative seat is quite enjoyable when thought about but realistically anarchists would balk at the idea of passing laws which impose their will upon others...even if it was for "the greater good".
Then again...there's always Larken's way...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xcd4edQD6s
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